Nameh Marsin and I spoke about - Abandonment Wounds - in early June 2020. You can listen here:
https://www.namehmarsin.com/podcast/episode/33cec3d3/abandonment-wound-with-vasumati-hancock
https://www.namehmarsin.com/podcast/episode/33cec3d3/abandonment-wound-with-vasumati-hancock